Current Comic Conversation for 11/23
The shtick here is that I and a friend (or friends) look at the shipping list for this comic week and riff, using the books that are coming out for inspiration for the discussion. I will usually be mixing up who I talk with each week, but Stony cried so much that I took pity on him and let him do two weeks in a row. But next week will be someone new, I promsie! Not that Stony isn't a fine guy to talk to about comics, of course (S=Stony, B=Brian).
Let's begin!
DEC040034 BMW FILMS THE HIRE #4 (OF 6)$2.99
S: I got the first copy of this... because I quite liked those little movies they did but.... I dunno... it's just not enough
S: Now if they did a series with Jason Statham's Transporter! Then I'd be all over those like white on rice
B: Only if Greg Horn did the covers.
B: And they had Statham straddling a fence in cutoffs.
SEP050025 PERHAPANAUTS #1 (OF 4)$2.99
S: Nice title... I'll give them that... the cover art I've seen... it's not Mike Mignola, is it?
S: I have a theory... you know that guy matt Smith? Mignola lookalike?
B: Yes?
B: What about him?
S: My theory is... Matt Smith *is* Mike Mignnola... just when Mignola wants to do work for pure money but doesn't want to sully his name by doing anything his Name is less than worthy of? He changes it to Matt Smith
B: That is a fine theory.
B: Except their art is not THAT much alike.
S: Really? i remember Smith's fill-ins on the STARMAN Times Past Stories... I thought to myself 'That's RIGHT!" It's Mignola!
B: http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/explorer-02.jpg)http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/explorer-02.jpg
B: http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/minibosses-NES-final.gif)http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/minibosses-NES-final.gif
B: http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/miniboss-02.jpg)http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/miniboss-02.jpg
B: Oh yeah, totally Mignola.
B: What was I thinking.
B: That is an absolute TOTAL Mignola likeness.
B: Oh?
B: What's that?
B: That doesn't look like Mignola at all?
B: Well, what do you know!
S: Bah!
S: You think Mignola can't cover his tracks?
S: You think he's not that good an artist?
B: Heck, I will be honest with you
B: That might not even be the same Matt Smith who draws comic books.
SEP050290 AUTHORITY THE MAGNIFICIENT KEVIN #4 (OF 5) (MR)$2.99
S: I see Ennis is following Ellis's example by writing in a bubble...
B: What's that?
S: By a bubble i mean writing totally in auniverse by himself where he uses existing characters with no regard to the continuity of whence those creations came... Like Ellis's Gah-Lak-Tus story
B: Or how he just made up a new characterization for Hawkeye?
B: I thought that that was weird (in Ultimate Secret, that is).
B: By the by - Nextwave? It is going to RULE.
AUG050264 EX MACHINA #16 (MR)$2.99
S: I love the concept of this title... Alas, it just isn't arresting me as it should... It isn't riveting enough... Now, when priest wrote Black Panther... that I thought was the perfect mixture of politics and superheroics, but Ex Machina... I dunno... what do you think?
B: I think Ex Machina is good, solid stories.
B: But yeah, it isn't knocking it out of the park, either.
B: A lot of solid singles, though.
S: Then why am i on the verge of dropping this?
B: Because you expect more.
B: Hell, you want to drop FABLES!
B: Which is a good deal better than Ex Machina.
S: Well i read the recent issue, and I *loved* the set up for the Djinns... a lovely set-up... and then bloody Willinghanm destroys it by making Yusuf little more than a cardboard cut-out villain
B: Bah
B: Yusef was no more than a means to an end.
B: It is like complaining about the DMZ lead being bland.
B: He's there just to move the plot along.
B: There is so much characterization going on in Fables, it doesn't NEED another character.
S: Well, he was on to something there... Yusuf had legitimate concerns! And he throws it all away by making totally self-serving wishes!
B: LET him be the straightforward villain.
S: You and your supervillain shtick...
S: I do love Prince Charming...
B: In addition, how cool is it to show how King Cole was a great politician?
S: That was rather nice...
B: And you want to drop it
B: So hell, what hope does Ex Machina have?>
B: Which only has about half a story a month!
B: The one half is told very well, though.
B: With nice art.
SEP050245 I CANT BELIEVE ITS NOT THE JUSTICE LEAGUE TP$12.99
S: I wonder what they'll call the next series... "I was part of the Justice League and all I got was this T-Shirt"?
B: No
B: "I was a part of the Justice League and all I got was shot in the head"
S: Talk about a burn
S: Isn't Morry bringing Beetle back somehow?
B: I dunno.
B: There are "rumors" going around that Booster will be the new Beetle.
B: Which I can't see happening.
B: As that makes absolutely NO sense.
B: Whatsoever.
SEP050235 FLASH #228$2.50
S: Wasn't Darwyn Cooke having a shot at Flash around this time...?
B: Yeah, but they decided against that.
B: It would make Johns' run look too bad.
B: That is the official reason.
B: But don't ask anyone at DC.
B: They'll deny it.
S: Well that sucks... I saw the episode he did on JLU.... He did Suicide Squad... trademark femme fatale and all
B: And was it great?
B: I bet it was.
SEP050247 JACK CROSS #4$2.50
S: I love this title... however... I heard from an unrealiable source that there haven't been any more solicitations after #4...
B: It is taking a break after #4.
B: I think it is here to stay.
S: Well I hope so... I know Warry wrote these a while back
S: I like that we liberals have our own kick-ass role-model
SEP050313LOVELESS #2 (MR)$2.99
S: The first issue of this didn't really inspire me to continue with this... nor did Jonah Hex...
B: Agreed.
S: Brian Azzarello... his 100 Bullets, if I may take a tangent here...
B: Go right ahead.
S: I read the first few trades of this, enjoyed them, but I thought to myself that this series *needs* to be set in l;ike, a South American city... forget all that CIA and US Govt rubbish, just set the whole thing within one city, make it more focused, where the local Govt is involved in corruption and is running the city like it's own empire... I think that would make for a more focused, tighter setting
S: And when I told this theory to a Mexican friend of mine he told me a revelation that I had not seen.... "The yanks wouldn't buy it because it's not set in America"... and he was right!
SEP050312 LUCIFER #68 (MR)$2.75
S: You know what I miss? The Devil. The goold old DE-E-VE-I-UM-EL... Horns, goattee, pitchfork, forked tale... Not one of those bloody Byrnoic, brooding, anti-heroic moaners who whine and complain about their fate... I want a Devil that revels in the evil and mischief he indulges in
SEP050260 SEVEN SOLDIERS FRANKENSTEIN #1 (OF 4)$2.99
S: I think i would like to see Morry doing Frankenstein, Dracula and the Wolfman...
SEP050317 Y THE LAST MAN VOL 6 GIRL ON GIRL TP (MR)$12.99
S: Nice title...
SEP051737 DOWN #1 (OF 4)$2.99
S: I wonder if Tony Harris will draw his women to be... as well-endowed in this as he does in Ex machina?
B: I think he will draw whoever he happens to have a picture of.
S: I like how he's evolved
JUL051656 INVINCIBLE #27$2.99
S: I still say blue and yellow is a *horrible* colour scheme
B: Why?
S: It just is.... hideous
SEP051915 BLACK WIDOW 2 #3 (OF 6)$2.99
S: With all the mini-series she's had... You think she could hold an ongoing yet?
B: I think he would grow bored if he did an ongoing.
SEP051953 MARVEL 1602 NEW WORLD #5 (OF 5)$3.50
S: Marvel's more strict on their canon than DC aren't they?
B: I don't think so.
S: But still... if they're going to do more stories like this... they really should consider a better name that "What If?"
SEP051934 NICK FURYS HOWLING COMMANDOS #1 DIRECTORS CUT$3.99
S: Could this really be much of an improvement? What, did they get someone else to do the art?
B: Can you imagine that?
B: What possessed them?
B: I mean, who could have thought this was a necessary product?
B: Who?
B: A Director's Cut for HOWLING COMMANDOS?!?!
SEP051920 PUNISHER VS BULLSEYE #1 (OF 5)$2.99
S: Is this the new trend of non-Ennis Punisher? What next? Punisher vs. Doop?
B: It is an attempt to recapture the excitement of the Way/Dillon Bullseye mini-series, which was excellent.
S: Oh aye? I didn't know that... I know they do Nighthawk, which I'm quite enjoying
SEP051987 WOLVERINE ENEMY OF THE STATE VOL 2 PREMIERE HC$21.99
S: Premiere....?
S: fancy name for a 1st edition...
B: They should do a red carpet event.
B: I wonder who Wolverine would take to the premiere.
S: Elektra?
SEP052847ALEX RAYMONDS FLASH GORDON VOL 5 HC$19.95
S: Flash! Aaaahhhh! He's save every last one of us!
SEP052753 BETTY & VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST #138$3.59
S: Well that's just wrong... it should be Veronica and Betty
B: Except.
B: Of course.
B: That Betty is the star.
S: bah! The thing about Betty is... cute blond girl-nest-door who has a crush on you... How is that not every man's fantasy? Now see Veronica.... she's the real thing
B: She is not a fantasy.
B: She is a well-developed character.
B: Unlike Veronica.
B: The whore.
OCT052975GOOD APOLLO IM BURNING STAR IV VOL 1 GN (MR)$19.99
S: Some of these things have really strange titles...
SEP052730OZ THE MANGA #6 (OF 8)$2.99
S: I once saw a Zorro manga series... a travesty it was... for one thing, "Zorro" was a blonde-haired, blue-eyed kid...
B: As well he should be.
SEP052953 UNCLE SCROOGE #348
SEP052954 WALT DISNEYS COMICS & STORIES #663$6.95$6.95
S: That's it!! Stony's broke for the week... WDC&S features a "Three Caballeros" story by Don Rosa!!!
Okay, folks, that's it! Feel free to chime in with YOUR thoughts about the comics coming out this week, or just riff on what Stony and I talked about!
Let's begin!
DEC040034 BMW FILMS THE HIRE #4 (OF 6)$2.99
S: I got the first copy of this... because I quite liked those little movies they did but.... I dunno... it's just not enough
S: Now if they did a series with Jason Statham's Transporter! Then I'd be all over those like white on rice
B: Only if Greg Horn did the covers.
B: And they had Statham straddling a fence in cutoffs.
SEP050025 PERHAPANAUTS #1 (OF 4)$2.99
S: Nice title... I'll give them that... the cover art I've seen... it's not Mike Mignola, is it?
S: I have a theory... you know that guy matt Smith? Mignola lookalike?
B: Yes?
B: What about him?
S: My theory is... Matt Smith *is* Mike Mignnola... just when Mignola wants to do work for pure money but doesn't want to sully his name by doing anything his Name is less than worthy of? He changes it to Matt Smith
B: That is a fine theory.
B: Except their art is not THAT much alike.
S: Really? i remember Smith's fill-ins on the STARMAN Times Past Stories... I thought to myself 'That's RIGHT!" It's Mignola!
B: http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/explorer-02.jpg)http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/explorer-02.jpg
B: http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/minibosses-NES-final.gif)http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/minibosses-NES-final.gif
B: http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/miniboss-02.jpg)http://www.matt-illustration.com/images/miniboss-02.jpg
B: Oh yeah, totally Mignola.
B: What was I thinking.
B: That is an absolute TOTAL Mignola likeness.
B: Oh?
B: What's that?
B: That doesn't look like Mignola at all?
B: Well, what do you know!
S: Bah!
S: You think Mignola can't cover his tracks?
S: You think he's not that good an artist?
B: Heck, I will be honest with you
B: That might not even be the same Matt Smith who draws comic books.
SEP050290 AUTHORITY THE MAGNIFICIENT KEVIN #4 (OF 5) (MR)$2.99
S: I see Ennis is following Ellis's example by writing in a bubble...
B: What's that?
S: By a bubble i mean writing totally in auniverse by himself where he uses existing characters with no regard to the continuity of whence those creations came... Like Ellis's Gah-Lak-Tus story
B: Or how he just made up a new characterization for Hawkeye?
B: I thought that that was weird (in Ultimate Secret, that is).
B: By the by - Nextwave? It is going to RULE.
AUG050264 EX MACHINA #16 (MR)$2.99
S: I love the concept of this title... Alas, it just isn't arresting me as it should... It isn't riveting enough... Now, when priest wrote Black Panther... that I thought was the perfect mixture of politics and superheroics, but Ex Machina... I dunno... what do you think?
B: I think Ex Machina is good, solid stories.
B: But yeah, it isn't knocking it out of the park, either.
B: A lot of solid singles, though.
S: Then why am i on the verge of dropping this?
B: Because you expect more.
B: Hell, you want to drop FABLES!
B: Which is a good deal better than Ex Machina.
S: Well i read the recent issue, and I *loved* the set up for the Djinns... a lovely set-up... and then bloody Willinghanm destroys it by making Yusuf little more than a cardboard cut-out villain
B: Bah
B: Yusef was no more than a means to an end.
B: It is like complaining about the DMZ lead being bland.
B: He's there just to move the plot along.
B: There is so much characterization going on in Fables, it doesn't NEED another character.
S: Well, he was on to something there... Yusuf had legitimate concerns! And he throws it all away by making totally self-serving wishes!
B: LET him be the straightforward villain.
S: You and your supervillain shtick...
S: I do love Prince Charming...
B: In addition, how cool is it to show how King Cole was a great politician?
S: That was rather nice...
B: And you want to drop it
B: So hell, what hope does Ex Machina have?>
B: Which only has about half a story a month!
B: The one half is told very well, though.
B: With nice art.
SEP050245 I CANT BELIEVE ITS NOT THE JUSTICE LEAGUE TP$12.99
S: I wonder what they'll call the next series... "I was part of the Justice League and all I got was this T-Shirt"?
B: No
B: "I was a part of the Justice League and all I got was shot in the head"
S: Talk about a burn
S: Isn't Morry bringing Beetle back somehow?
B: I dunno.
B: There are "rumors" going around that Booster will be the new Beetle.
B: Which I can't see happening.
B: As that makes absolutely NO sense.
B: Whatsoever.
SEP050235 FLASH #228$2.50
S: Wasn't Darwyn Cooke having a shot at Flash around this time...?
B: Yeah, but they decided against that.
B: It would make Johns' run look too bad.
B: That is the official reason.
B: But don't ask anyone at DC.
B: They'll deny it.
S: Well that sucks... I saw the episode he did on JLU.... He did Suicide Squad... trademark femme fatale and all
B: And was it great?
B: I bet it was.
SEP050247 JACK CROSS #4$2.50
S: I love this title... however... I heard from an unrealiable source that there haven't been any more solicitations after #4...
B: It is taking a break after #4.
B: I think it is here to stay.
S: Well I hope so... I know Warry wrote these a while back
S: I like that we liberals have our own kick-ass role-model
SEP050313LOVELESS #2 (MR)$2.99
S: The first issue of this didn't really inspire me to continue with this... nor did Jonah Hex...
B: Agreed.
S: Brian Azzarello... his 100 Bullets, if I may take a tangent here...
B: Go right ahead.
S: I read the first few trades of this, enjoyed them, but I thought to myself that this series *needs* to be set in l;ike, a South American city... forget all that CIA and US Govt rubbish, just set the whole thing within one city, make it more focused, where the local Govt is involved in corruption and is running the city like it's own empire... I think that would make for a more focused, tighter setting
S: And when I told this theory to a Mexican friend of mine he told me a revelation that I had not seen.... "The yanks wouldn't buy it because it's not set in America"... and he was right!
SEP050312 LUCIFER #68 (MR)$2.75
S: You know what I miss? The Devil. The goold old DE-E-VE-I-UM-EL... Horns, goattee, pitchfork, forked tale... Not one of those bloody Byrnoic, brooding, anti-heroic moaners who whine and complain about their fate... I want a Devil that revels in the evil and mischief he indulges in
SEP050260 SEVEN SOLDIERS FRANKENSTEIN #1 (OF 4)$2.99
S: I think i would like to see Morry doing Frankenstein, Dracula and the Wolfman...
SEP050317 Y THE LAST MAN VOL 6 GIRL ON GIRL TP (MR)$12.99
S: Nice title...
SEP051737 DOWN #1 (OF 4)$2.99
S: I wonder if Tony Harris will draw his women to be... as well-endowed in this as he does in Ex machina?
B: I think he will draw whoever he happens to have a picture of.
S: I like how he's evolved
JUL051656 INVINCIBLE #27$2.99
S: I still say blue and yellow is a *horrible* colour scheme
B: Why?
S: It just is.... hideous
SEP051915 BLACK WIDOW 2 #3 (OF 6)$2.99
S: With all the mini-series she's had... You think she could hold an ongoing yet?
B: I think he would grow bored if he did an ongoing.
SEP051953 MARVEL 1602 NEW WORLD #5 (OF 5)$3.50
S: Marvel's more strict on their canon than DC aren't they?
B: I don't think so.
S: But still... if they're going to do more stories like this... they really should consider a better name that "What If?"
SEP051934 NICK FURYS HOWLING COMMANDOS #1 DIRECTORS CUT$3.99
S: Could this really be much of an improvement? What, did they get someone else to do the art?
B: Can you imagine that?
B: What possessed them?
B: I mean, who could have thought this was a necessary product?
B: Who?
B: A Director's Cut for HOWLING COMMANDOS?!?!
SEP051920 PUNISHER VS BULLSEYE #1 (OF 5)$2.99
S: Is this the new trend of non-Ennis Punisher? What next? Punisher vs. Doop?
B: It is an attempt to recapture the excitement of the Way/Dillon Bullseye mini-series, which was excellent.
S: Oh aye? I didn't know that... I know they do Nighthawk, which I'm quite enjoying
SEP051987 WOLVERINE ENEMY OF THE STATE VOL 2 PREMIERE HC$21.99
S: Premiere....?
S: fancy name for a 1st edition...
B: They should do a red carpet event.
B: I wonder who Wolverine would take to the premiere.
S: Elektra?
SEP052847ALEX RAYMONDS FLASH GORDON VOL 5 HC$19.95
S: Flash! Aaaahhhh! He's save every last one of us!
SEP052753 BETTY & VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST #138$3.59
S: Well that's just wrong... it should be Veronica and Betty
B: Except.
B: Of course.
B: That Betty is the star.
S: bah! The thing about Betty is... cute blond girl-nest-door who has a crush on you... How is that not every man's fantasy? Now see Veronica.... she's the real thing
B: She is not a fantasy.
B: She is a well-developed character.
B: Unlike Veronica.
B: The whore.
OCT052975GOOD APOLLO IM BURNING STAR IV VOL 1 GN (MR)$19.99
S: Some of these things have really strange titles...
SEP052730OZ THE MANGA #6 (OF 8)$2.99
S: I once saw a Zorro manga series... a travesty it was... for one thing, "Zorro" was a blonde-haired, blue-eyed kid...
B: As well he should be.
SEP052953 UNCLE SCROOGE #348
SEP052954 WALT DISNEYS COMICS & STORIES #663$6.95$6.95
S: That's it!! Stony's broke for the week... WDC&S features a "Three Caballeros" story by Don Rosa!!!
Okay, folks, that's it! Feel free to chime in with YOUR thoughts about the comics coming out this week, or just riff on what Stony and I talked about!
posted by Brian Cronin at 11/23/2005 06:38:00 AM
3 Comments:
--OCT052975GOOD APOLLO IM BURNING STAR IV VOL 1 GN (MR)$19.99
S: Some of these things have really strange titles...--
Let's be fair here. Yes some comics have weird names. This one happens to be the title of Coheed and Cambria's new concept album. The music industry has to take the heat for this one.
Perhapanauts
Good Comic.
Todd Dezago and Craig Rousseau have been doing it for a while as a mini-comic...it's cool...fun...if i have as good a grasp on Cronin's taste as I think I do, he'll love it.
I didn't even know it got picked up by Dark Horse, but that's awesome news.
Everybody buy it.
Am I the only one in the entire blogosphere who was 100% happy with Jonah Hex and greatly looks forward to future issues?
Seriously. Great art. Solid done-in-one story. Good writing. A badass lead character. I just don't get the "ho-hum" reaction the book seems to be receiving. Oh well. I hope it has a devoted enough following to keep it around for a while.
On a sidenote, you guys skipped out on She-Hulk #2. For shame. I bet it'll be equal parts hilarious and awesome.
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