Wednesday, August 24, 2005

Is it go time between me and Rucka?

So I'm flipping through OMAC today (please don't ask me why) and some weird robot thing (or whatever the hell those things are) shoots Fire and says something like "target terminated." Then Guy takes her to the hospital. Is she dead? Can anyone help me? Let me tell you, if Rucka and his evil little cohorts at DC killed Beatriz, there's gonna be some ass-whupping, I tells ya!

Okay, not really. I love Beatriz, but she is, after all, fictional. I just can't believe that Rucka and Winnick and Johns are decimating the DCU like this. In my mind, killing characters is LAZY-ASS WRITING. It's like, "Well, we can't figure out a way to make this OMAC thing interesting at all, and no one is really emotionally interested in the crap-ass story we're telling, so let's kill someone." That's poor writing. That's - how shall I put it? - SHIT WRITING.

I didn't buy it, by the way. Fire dying or surviving will have absolutely no effect on my daily life. I was just curious. Go read Whiteout and its sequel. Rucka really does know how to write.*

* Yes, I know I used the word "ass" a lot in this post. Forgive me - it just seemed appropriate.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't like things that suck.

Whiteout and Queen & Country are both outstanding, Greg- go look in the mirror.

8/24/2005 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger T. said...

Lot of crappy writing out there from DC today. JSA Classified ending where they plugged the upcoming Crisis, Batman book with its crappy revelation and the Superman book showing that DC is now officially the Big Blue Girl Scout. God he's such a wuss, now. Can we get a non-pinko on Superman, PLEASE!? This is as bad as when Loeb had Supes doing therapy for post-traumatic stress disorder.

And read my blog: Yes, I spam now.

8/24/2005 07:01:00 PM  
Blogger Greg said...

Look in the mirror? I don't understand. I haven't read Q & C (just never got around to it), but I mentioned that Whiteout is good in the post. I also liked most of Rucka's Detective run. I know he's a good writer. That's why this penchant for knocking people off bothers me.

I can always count on T. to stir the pot!

8/24/2005 07:15:00 PM  
Blogger Bill Reed said...

Jesus, we've really got it up the arse with spammers, don't we?

Anyway... they're offing Fire, too? They already offed Sue and Ted and Rocket Red! And Crimson Fox, years ago.

I just bought a handful of awesome old JLs today. Now I will weep tears of blood.

8/24/2005 08:15:00 PM  
Blogger kelvingreen said...

So I'm flipping through OMAC today (please don't ask me why) and some weird robot thing (or whatever the hell those things are) shoots Fire and says something like "target terminated."
Oh god, it's Scourge isn't it? It's just Scourge again. Only robotic, and with a mohawk.

Justice is served. :/

8/24/2005 08:30:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Fossen said...

Not only is it a writing cop-out ... it's losing effect with each use.

Beetle got offed just seconds before OMAC starts. Max gets offed in (essentially) OMAC 3.5. Red Rocket got offed ... didn't he?

"didn't he"? Listen to me: I'm losing track of the corpses.

I have nothing to spam. Sorry.

8/24/2005 08:37:00 PM  
Anonymous A. H. said...

It's gotten to the point where it's no longer irritating, but hilarious. Probably not what Rucka was going for, but pathos turns into bathos so easily. I hope Booster and Fire bite it soon to make way for the zombie JLI revival in 52*.

I would totally buy a zombie JLI revival. Weekly. Daily, if it came to that.

8/24/2005 08:41:00 PM  
Blogger Brad Curran said...

"Look in the mirror? I don't understand. I haven't read Q & C (just never got around to it), but I mentioned that Whiteout is good in the post. I also liked most of Rucka's Detective run. I know he's a good writer. That's why this penchant for knocking people off bothers me."

Rucka's first name is Greg, too.

8/24/2005 09:20:00 PM  
Blogger Greg said...

Yeah, I know his first name. Am I responsible for all Gregs in the world???? Such a heavy burden!!!

Zombie JLI. Me like.

8/24/2005 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Dan Coyle said...

You know, even the way he writes Wonder Woman, that scene in the beginning of AoS rang utterly, utterly false. But since Rucka seems to be hugely hung up on characters killing, it happens anyway. I think Diana would have at least said "I'm sorry, Kal, it was the only way." But no, "She just snapped his neck like that." That's right, Superman, girls are icky.

ANd Sasha turns into a robot.

Please, anyone who still thinks Rucka really cares about female treatment in comics, and that continually abusing Sasha, Fire, the Native, et al is his way of correcting the Women in Refrigerators culture, e-mail at, 'cause I don't get it.

8/24/2005 11:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By this point I find it impossible to care anymore about what happens or who dies. I just stand there in my Local Comic Shop and flip through the various tie-ins (why? I think its because I hate myself.) then pick up something enjoyable rather then DCs latest purge book.

8/25/2005 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Morts said...

Zombie JLI... ressurected superheroes

Excuse me, I have to go write a pitch.

8/25/2005 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand why everyone is copping out here: "Rucka does know how to write". Sorry, I've picked up and read a few of his novels and they are terrible.
DC's hiring of this guy is really turning me away from comics permanently. Most of what's coming out from DC is awful and it's really putting me off comics as an artform. Unlike most people who post here I suppose, I don't care for indie comics or anything from companies outside the big two. When I pick up a comic I want to read a story about a hero. Comics to me seem like an exciting place for that simple reason: that they're about heroes. It's a simple, optimistic reason to like them, but that's why I put my money down.Otherwise I just can't be bothered.
Greg Rucka, Geoff Johns, almost DC's entire staff are not writing stories that contain any aspects of anything I would call heroism. Infinite Crisis is not an epic, it's not a morality tale, it's just a real orgy of imaginary blood. I will not endorse any man responsible for putting it together.
Comics Should Be Good. These aren't. Spend your money in other places.

8/25/2005 09:11:00 AM  
Blogger T. said...

In response to "Anonymous" post directly above me, I totally agree. It's not a morality tale but an exercise of moral relativism. The villains exist now not to be defeated by good but solely as plot devices to bring out the moral grey areas of the heroes. In Countdown one of the biggest ironies I found was that Johnuckanick use ever opportunity to tell you over and over that the "A-list" heroes were so incredibly heroic, but make no effort to SHOW you their heroism through their actions. Show, don't tell.

I also agree that I don't understand why Rucka's always called such a great writer. I find him amateurish personally. Brubaker is a little too obsessed with the moral grey area of heroes too, but at least his skill level makes it palatable.

8/25/2005 10:36:00 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

In 20 years, some up-and-coming writer who's now a kid reading DC's new line of all-snuff comics will kick of a big crossover event with the graphic rape and murder of the by-then obscure and dimly remembered Stargirl character, and when that happens, it will be hard not to jump up and down going "neener neener neener."

8/25/2005 11:20:00 AM  
Blogger kelvingreen said...

Hang on, you think there'll be a DC Comics in 20 years? Wow.

8/25/2005 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger Bill Reed said...

Oh, DC Comics will be around forever, even if it's just as two or three Superman and Batman comics for licensing purposes and wacky nostalgia.

And, dammit, Zombie JLI *would* be good.

8/25/2005 05:12:00 PM  
Blogger Brian Cronin said...

Jeph Loeb did Zombie Justice League in Superman/Batman, and it DID kick ass!

Granted, it was drawn by Carlos Pachecho, which is kinda cheating...but still!

8/25/2005 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger T. said...

DC will be around in 20 years. They'll just wipe the continuity slate clean and outsource the comics work to Japan.

8/25/2005 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous A. H. said...

At this point, Zombie JLI will consist of a flip-top-headed Max lugging around Rocket Red's helmet with the Blue Beetle's ashes in it.

It would be AMAZING.

8/25/2005 05:59:00 PM  
Blogger Bill Reed said...

Zombie JLI: Max, Beetle, Sue, Dmitri, Ice, Crimson Fox(es), and Ralph Dibny as the wacky "alive guy."

8/25/2005 07:05:00 PM  
Blogger Brad Curran said...

"Zombie JLI: Max, Beetle, Sue, Dmitri, Ice, Crimson Fox(es), and Ralph Dibny as the wacky 'alive guy.'"

This makes me think of that scene from Dead Alive where the main character has a bunch of zombies tied up in his basement, excepting replacing those characters with Ralph and the gang. Morts, if that scene isn't in you pitch, I will cry.

8/25/2005 09:07:00 PM  
Blogger Brad Curran said...


8/25/2005 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous A. H. said...

Funny you mention Dead Alive when Sue died pregnant.

Either the Dibnyspawn picks a horrible, yet hilarious fight with somebody, or else I ain't buying.

8/25/2005 10:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Morts said...

I've never seen "dead alive".

I was thinking that the JLI decides "Hey, we're dead, let's go rescue Ice from Hell!"

Once there, they find out Ice doesn't actually want to go, but the Devil wants them to take her.

Hillarity ensues, "Ransom of Red Cheif" style!

8/26/2005 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous A. H. said...

She's not really in Hell anymore, though--Etrigan said if anybody looked back, she's off to Valhalla where she belongs. Zombies in Valhalla, now, that's even better.

You should watch Dead Alive. Peter Jackson zombie madness. Featuring the most awesome priest in the world.

8/26/2005 09:43:00 AM  
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