Sunday, March 05, 2006

Saturday in the Licensing Bureau

And here we are with part two of this little overview of various licensed comics that should be collected but probably won't be.

First off, in the comments of last week's installment, someone mentioned the great Bob Oksner and his work on DC's Bob Hope and Jerry Lewis books. WAY ahead of you there, pal. Bob Oksner is one of my favorites from my youth and always has been; but thanks for giving me the excuse to link to this article I did for Jonah Weiland back in 2002. I have been helping out with CBR's San Diego press coverage for the last few years, and one of the bones Jonah throws me every year is letting me cover panels like this that spotlight the older folks in the business, or as the other CBR reporters put it, "Hatcher's old-guy stuff."

(Brief tangent: you know, all you younguns out there, it's a rare gift we have in comics that so many of the people that helped found the industry as we know it are still around, available to talk to and meet at conventions and so on. You do yourselves a huge disservice if you miss the opportunity to hear what they have to say because you are standing in a six-hour line to get Jim Lee's autograph, because a lot of these older guys aren't going to be with us that much longer. And they generally are more interesting to talk to and funnier than the Young Hot Flavor of the Month. And as a bonus, you almost never will have to wait in a long line because most fans have no sense of history. End tangent.)

Where was I? Oksner and the Bob Hope and Jerry Lewis stuff.

Only in comics do you get stuff this demented. And hey, it's Oksner, so there's going to be hot-looking girls, too.

The great thing about these particular licensed books is that they were pure comics, so to speak; everyone involved with it could do pretty much whatever they wanted, they weren't handicapped by having to somehow recreate the 'feel' of the original property because the likeness and name were all that DC were paying for. Bob Hope, in particular, was one of those books that had everything but the kitchen sink thrown in; it was a wonderful, goofy mess, because comic-book Hope's only real character trait was that he had a lot of snappy one-liners. Apart from that they could put him in any kind of situation they wanted.

More Oksner craziness, complete with gratuitous Hot Girl!

Jerry Lewis, same thing. Oksner himself has said this particular title was his favorite, and it shows. Also, I think Lewis in the 60's was easier for comics, his screen persona was more about the visual slapstick and thus a better fit for a comic book. Sadly, there's probably no way anyone's ever going to reprint this stuff. In my experience it's damn hard to find these titles and hideously expen$ive when you do, but if you do see these books around, you should grab 'em, they're a lot of fun.


Another category of licensed comics are the ones coming not from movies or TV, but from the pulps. The most successful pulp adaptations in comics are probably Conan and Ka-Zar -- those two are so successful as comic book properties that no one remembers they started as prose fiction characters in the 30's. You could probably fit Tarzan and John Carter of Mars in here too. Now, Dark Horse is doing a beautiful job repackaging the older Conan and Tarzan stuff, and more power to them, but where's the John Carter love? Marvel's John Carter Warlord of Mars was a great book when Marv Wolfman and Gil Kane were doing it and I'd love to see that stuff again too. How about it, Dark Horse licensing people?

And there were other pulps too. Lots of people remember the 70's DC Shadow series from Denny O'Neil and Mike Kaluta, and that stuff is pretty easy to find in trade reprint -- but they may not remember that there was also this pulp hero making his debut at around the same time, under O'Neil and the great Jack Kirby:

That's right, Jack Kirby did not just the Avengers but also the Avenger.

It's kind of weird because you'd think this was not really a Kirby kind of a strip. He'd have been much better on something like Doc Savage or Captain Future if you are going to get Jack Kirby to adapt a pulp to comics. But even so, Justice Inc. is a very cool book, though no one thought so at the time; it only ran a few issues, maybe four or five. O'Neil had a really good handle on how to do pulp comics and his adaptations are among my favorites. In fact, let me add that Mike Kaluta was not the only artist to work with him on the Shadow -- there were also some great issues in that run from E.R. Cruz and Frank Robbins and they ALL deserve reprinting.

The crossover that never happened in the pulps! Sadly, stunts like this didn't save the books.

My favorite Shadow in comics, though, came a decade and a half afterward. It went largely unnoticed and unremarked upon by fans, though I think it was the biggest success Lamont Cranston ever had in funnybooks.

More stunt casting crossover stuff!

The Shadow Strikes! was from Gerard Jones and Eduardo Barreto and it was simply a terrific book. Jones has a lot of actual historical knowledge of the thirties, which put him in a better position to write 30's pulp stories than anyone else in comics who's ever tried it. And Barreto is just plain good, his pages have a great Milt Caniff/Joe Kubert/John Buscema vibe to them, that macho sweaty adventure look. Perfect for a strip like this one. This ran some thirty-plus issues in the 80's, more than double the run of any other Shadow title in comics. But no one ever mentions it; they always want to talk about O'Neil/Kaluta or Chaykin or Kyle Baker or whoever. But this one was easily the best and truest adaptation of the actual pulp character, and it expanded on the supporting characters in a way no other had done. "Margo's Story" I remember as being a particular highlight.

Doc Savage has had his ups and downs in comics. There have been some good tries there but none of them ever really caught on. Probably my favorites were the black-and white magazine stories Marvel did in the 70's to tie in to the George Pal movie. These were from Doug Moench and Tony DeZuniga and they really felt like the original stories.

This issue also has a great article in it by Will Murray, as it happens.

The magazine only ran eight issues but they are really GOOD issues. A close runner-up would be the books that came out from the now-defunct Millennium Publishing in the early 1990's. Their strategy was similar to the one Dark Horse has taken with the Tarzan stuff: a series of limited series and one-shots, rather than an ongoing monthly. And they were good stuff, really. Art was better than the story, most of the time, but the stories were certainly serviceable.

Stelfreeze was THE go-to guy at Millennium for covers.

Speaking of Millennium, they did some other cool licensed books too. Odd choices for a comics company in the 1990's; but I loved their books. Here's two that really ought to be reprinted somehow, some day:

Say UNCLE, punks.

Take THAT, Will Smith.

Both were mini-series and read like competent, fun fan fiction. I suspect that the fanfic sensibility is what drove Millennium and that's why they're no longer with us, but they gave work to a lot of guys that went on to become solid contributors at Marvel and DC, like Mike Wieringo and Brian Stelfreeze and Darryl Banks, among others. Good stuff and worth tracking down, though it's going to take some hunting.


As long as we're talking about retro-hip-60's cool, I'd be remiss not to point out the terrific Jonny Quest book from Comico, another defunct publisher that put out some amazing books while they lasted.

Bill Sienkewicz does Bandit. How cool is THAT?

This ran for a couple of years, about 30-some issues. Great stories from William Messner-Loebs and Joe Staton, with a breathtaking array of guest artists doing the covers. The covers alone are worth checking out, but the stories were good too. We got all sorts of background on characters like Jezebel Jade and Race Bannon -- a highlight was the story of how Race went from being a private eye to getting a permanent gig as the Quests' bodyguard, and there were lots of other fun backstory issues like that. Again, fan fiction, but GOOD fan fiction, which is what you want from a licensed book.

And I'm really amazed that no one on this blog, of all places, thought to mention THIS particular 60's TV property that was done for comics. I'd have thought for sure that would have been the number one priority in the comments section of last week's column. Because, after all...

I thought you guys were all about Grant Morrison for Chrissakes.

...Grant Morrison wrote it. A fine job he did, too -- and I'm not saying that just because this blog requires all of us to pimp his work whenever possible. The truth of the matter is that Morrison's style is quite possibly the best fit for this TV show that any comics adaptation could hope for; he has exactly the kind of screw logic, it's all about style and ideas and fun sensibility that the Avengers TV show itself had. This was originally a British strip for Acme Press and Eclipse somehow finagled the rights to publish it here in the States back in the 80's. Ian Gibson did the art and it ran three issues in Prestige format. Very good stuff. The James Bond books Acme put out around the same time have been collected in one form or another over here, I think Dark Horse, again, reprinted those a little while back -- but this was a fun series too and deserves more love than it's getting.

I could go on and on. But I won't. You get the idea. I do hope, though, that some smart reprint editor sees this and maybe pitches a couple of these to his bosses. Would it cost THAT much for you guys to get the rights to reprint these books, fellas? Think franchise, think bookstore market. You could sell trades of them, I know. Look what bookstores have been able to do with the Buffy and Star Trek franchises. At least consider it.

And if no editor takes up the challenge, well, there's always the back-issue bins, or eBay. Though the downside of going after licensed comics is that it's not just comics fans that are after them, you also are competing with movie and TV memorabilia collectors, and those people are seemingly MADE of money. It's an expensive habit, apparently. But you can find some of these for reasonable prices and it's worth looking.

See you all next week.

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Blogger Dave said...

Are you sure that's Oksner on that Jerry Lewis cover? I seem to detect the fine hand of Mort Drucker there.

As for The Shadow, all comic versions pale in comparison to the Helfer/Baker version. Greatest series of the 80s, in my opinion.

3/05/2006 01:09:00 AM  
Blogger --Greg Hatcher said...

Pretty sure, yeah. I looked it up on the GCD because I wanted to do the "Bob Oksner uses any excuse to draw hot girls" joke in the caption.

(Yes, the pictures in my posts usually have hidden captions -- slide the mouse across the pic and it should pop up.)

3/05/2006 01:34:00 AM  
Blogger Brian Cronin said...

Great stuff, Greg, as usual.

3/05/2006 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Brad said...

"And I'm really amazed that no one on this blog, of all places, thought to mention THIS particular 60's TV property that was done for comics. I'd have thought for sure that would have been the number one priority in the comments section of last week's column. Because, after all...

...Grant Morrison wrote it."

Yeah, that is pretty surprising, but I'd wager that none of us have it except for Tadhg, and he ain't talking. Ever. At least here.

3/05/2006 02:35:00 AM  
Blogger Marionette said...

Morrison, shmorrison. The comic has art by the incredible Ian Gibson. Okay so it doesn't compare to his work on the legendary Ballad of Halo Jones, but what does?

3/05/2006 03:29:00 AM  
Blogger Iagorune said...

It's been years since I've even seen an issue of the Jerry Lewis book, but I remember really liking it when I was a little kid. For an 8 year old it was just fall on your ass funny.

I also have that Morrison Avengers series back in the files somewhere. That really was a fine little mini.

I would really like to see the DC Prisoner mini from the 80's reprinted. It wasn't perfect, but it certainly did it's best.

- rick

3/05/2006 04:18:00 AM  
Blogger Harvey Jerkwater said...

The first story arc of The Shadow Strikes! was freakin' great.

3/05/2006 09:17:00 AM  
Blogger --Greg Hatcher said...

The DC mini-series, The Prisoner: Shattered Visage is indeed very cool, no question; but it was collected in trade and had, I think, two separate printings. So I ruled it out; I was trying to concentrate on uncollected work. But definitely, yeah, it's a good time. So's the James Bond stuff from Moench and Gulacy, and the Mike Grell three-issue miniseries. But I know Serpent's Tooth got a trade printing, and I think Grell's did too, though I can't swear to the latter. There was a time right around the release of Goldeneye that Dark Horse or Topps or somebody like that snapped up all the old Acme Press British Bond strips and started putting them out over here.

The other one I thought of but left out because it got a reasonably-easy-to-find-or-order book edition was Alex Toth's Zorro, but that's certainly worth your time too.

3/05/2006 10:31:00 AM  
Blogger Greg said...

Hey! I own Steed and Mrs. Peel. Very good stuff. I loved the Avengers from when I was but a small lad.

3/05/2006 10:49:00 AM  
Blogger glen davis said...

Wild Wild West was a very good mini, and really should be in print, but I think the Will Smith movie really damaged the property.

I have an issue of Archie's take on The Shadow somewhere. Just a complete misfire on what made the character popular.

3/05/2006 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous John said...

Interesting post. That Comico Johnny Quest comics was great, as were the Gumby comics they published around the same time.

By the way, using ALT tags for captions only works in IE. If you want then to be readable for Firefox readers (such as myself), you need to use the TITLE tag.

3/05/2006 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Mike Loughlin said...

Have you ever read any Joe Kubert Tarzan comics? I acquired 8 issues last year, and they are terrific! Kubert's animals, jungle scapes, and Tarzan were gorgeous, and the stories (some of which were adapted from Burroughs) had that hard-to-define "plupy feel." I don't even like Tarzan, but just thinking about the Kubert issues makes me smile.

3/06/2006 03:36:00 PM  
Blogger Iagorune said...


Dark Horse out out a hardback edition of the Joe's Tarzen stuff just a few months ago.

It's all the DC stuff and the book looks just like one of the DC Archive editions. But like I said it's actually published by Dark Horse.

It's well worth buying.

- rick

3/06/2006 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Mike Loughlin said...

Oh! Thank you, Iagorune. I'll have to put that on my list of "stuff to buy when I get the money," next to "Locas" and "Plastic Man vol. 3 +."

3/07/2006 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Lee said...

How about 'Atari Force' put out by DC in the 80's? I've never gotten even a whiff about it being collected, but I remember those being some great comics, particularly the art by Garcia-Lopez in the earlier issues.

3/09/2006 02:13:00 PM  
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