Tuesday, March 28, 2006

An Epiphany Involving Spider-Man's Dumb New Costume. Which is Dumb.

Dr. Who is to blame for Spider-Man's dumb new costume.

See, as my friend, let's call him Chantmaster Rix, happened to tell me when talking about Dr. Who, which he does from time to time (or all the time, I can't remember, I kind of drift in and out of consciousness when he does). Anyway, according to that Brittish Sci-Fi epic's mythos, The Other was one of the timelords that originally created time travel along with Rassilon and Omega.

Well, that's what ol' Rix said, don't get angry at me Dr. Who nerdws! But I'll take his word for it for the sake of a lame inside joke. And he's really fucking obsessed with Dr. Who, so I assume he knows what he's talking about.

But if this is true, then I can only assume that this Other guy is the same Other referred to in the Spider-Man storyline of the same name. I can only assume that because I haven't read it. And I probably won't. Ever. But I'm pretty sure that this is right.

Which means that this Other dude is responsible for a 13 issue excuse for Spider-Man to change clothes. And I can't forgive him for this. But he's fictional, so I can't do anything to him. So this line of bizarre, barroque reasoning I'm engaging in because I'm bored will mean nothing. Unless I take up Chaos Magik! This is as good an excuse I've had as any to, too. So I will. Maybe. I think I need a nap before making any decisions about taking on weird belief systems. I mean, the last time I was in this position, I became a Scientologist. And that's no fun. Man, I'm going to get Cronin in trouble for that.

Anyway, Spider-Man's temporary costume is dumb and my friend is obsessed with Dr. Who. Those would be the two salient points you should take from this. Use them wisely.

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9 Comments:

Blogger Alex Scott said...

I can probably help.

See, if "the Other" in Spider-Man is the legendary Time Lord, then by interacting with Peter Parker, he seems to have made Spidey into a Time Lord himself. Thus, Spidey's death/resurrection sequence are, in fact, a depiction of Spider-Man's first regeneration, with Spidey's new costume and powers being essentially the same as Tom Baker emerging in Jon Pertwee's clothes.

Now it starts to make sense. After all, the BBC only came up with regeneration so they could keep the series going after the star left the show, so maybe Marvel has a similar idea. Obviously the comic doesn't need to change actors. . . but the movie does! Eventually, Tobey Maguire will have to leave. Therefore, Marvel came up with this stupid "Other" storyline to establish Peter as a Time Lord, have Tobey killed off in one of the movies, and recast him for the next one.

I've got a similar theory regarding James Bond. He's a Time Lord, too, although I'm not sure how Casino Royale will change that.

3/28/2006 06:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Iron Lungfish said...

The "Other" thing in Doctor Who was pretty lame. First: they didn't really need to come up with an origin for the Doctor; they just needed to get more daring with the stories they were willing to tell (this is still Who's problem - the new series is as exciting as day-old oatmeal). Second: if you're going to give him a name, give him an actual name. "The Other" sounds mysterious the first three or four times I heard it; then it became tedious; once I realized it was supposed to be the guy's actual name it just became absurd.

3/28/2006 07:15:00 PM  
Blogger kelvingreen said...

But if this is true, then I can only assume that this Other guy is the same Other referred to in the Spider-Man storyline of the same name. I can only assume that because I haven't read it. And I probably won't. Ever. But I'm pretty sure that this is right.
Hey, I read all of The Udder, and I still can't tell you who or what "the Other" was in that story, because there was no bloody story. Just a horrible mess that's better forgotten.

But Spidey as Time Lord... there could be something to that. Who debuted in 1963. When was Amazing Fantasy published? Did Stan Lee have this planned all along?

3/28/2006 09:02:00 PM  
Blogger RAB said...

Chantmaster Rix sounds like a very tolerant friend. I can tell you from personal experience that he does see your eyes glaze over whenever he talks about Doctor Who...but he keeps at it, knowing that some of it will seep in anyway, as this post proves.

But he ought to have pointed out -- or maybe he did, but it didn't register on your unconscious mind -- this stuff about "the Other" comes only from a series of spinoff novels that are sometimes more like fan fiction with an "official" stamp of approval. Most DW fans don't consider them canonical because none of this stuff appeared in the actual show.

Yes, I went there.

3/29/2006 02:07:00 AM  
Blogger joncormier said...

I figured it's because Dr. Who kept getting morphed from time to time when an actor left for whatever reason and they were doing similar things to Spidey.

3/29/2006 10:14:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Griswold said...

I really liked The Other.

3/29/2006 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Ben Herman said...

Oh, man... the Other is a big old can of worms with Doctor Who fandom, as he is supposed to be the original incarnation of the Doctor himself before he became a Time Lord. Some people like it, others hate it. At least it gave a halfway-decent explanation for how the Doctor could have a granddaughter who was not a Time Lord.

In any case, the Doctor Who novels were certainly chock-full of retcons and continuity revisions. A couple of the most egregious examples were John Peel's novels War of the Daleks and Legacy of the Daleks where he set out to "fix" certain plot elements from past television stories that he felt were either silly or didn't make sense. These changes were rather ham-fisted and unnecessary, IMHO. After those two books were published, one clever message board poster at Comic Book Resources suggested that maybe "John Peel" was actually a pseudonym for John Byrne :)

3/29/2006 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous TeamSmithy said...

Christopher Eccleston could so win in a fight with Spider-man.

3/30/2006 02:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Ben Herman said...

Christopher Eccleston could so win in a fight with Spider-man.

Next time I watch 28 Days Later, i'm probably going to get stuck thinking of the last half hour of the movie as "Doctor Who vs. The Scarecrow" :)

3/30/2006 09:21:00 AM  

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