Wednesday, October 12, 2005

Scared and compelled

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/12/books/12dc.html

It's a fairly mundane article but this bit amused me:
"I think people feel it's dark because it's so compelling," Mr. DiDio said. "They don't know how our heroes are going to get out of the danger."

Mr. Rucka agreed: "When they're saying 'it's too dark,' they're saying, 'I'm scared.'"
It's an ineresting take I guess, but it doesn't wash with actual complaints that I've read and that I've made. Of course, I don't even know what I'm supposed to be scared of, Anyone have any ideas? And DiDio's claims are even weirder. The complaints have nothing to do with the danger but with the aftermath that we've seen.

Waid's quote is also good:
The one-year gap that results from the "Infinite Crisis" will allow a hard look at every DC title with the question "What works about this character for the 21st century?" Mr. Waid said. Some titles may end up being canceled. Others will get a change of editors or writers.

A change of editors, writers, and possible cancellations! Dear me! This is exactly like everything that has come before.

And I'm still trying to figure out how monolithic crossovers are supposed to add depth and complexity to comics. All the talk of adding sophistication and depth, with no mention of Seven soldiers; all the talk of reinvigorating the icons, with no mention of All-Star; Seems to me that DC is once again focusing on the wrong thing.

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18 Comments:

Blogger Bill Reed said...

Wow, lots of posts here today.

Yes, Rucka's right, but only, if by "scared" he means "scared that one of the top companies in the industry is going straight down the crapper and dragging the whole damn business down with it."

Either way, most of these comics are poo. Seven Soldiers and All-Star is where it's at or will be, durn it.

10/12/2005 01:22:00 PM  
Blogger MarkAndrew said...

"I think people feel it's dark because it's so compelling," Mr. DiDio said. "They don't know how our heroes are going to get out of the danger."

Mr. Rucka agreed: "When they're saying 'it's too dark,' they're saying, 'I'm scared.'"

Gosh. And here I didn't even KNOW that I was saying that I was scared. Much thanks to Meesirs Rucka and Dido for using their magic powers of super Freudian telepathy to figure out what I'm REALLY saying.

Of course, this has led to some other problems...

Like I'm at the diner the other day, and I THINK I want pancakes instead of grits, but how do I actually KNOW I want pancakes. I NEED super-telepathy to figure out what I'm actually thinking!

10/12/2005 02:00:00 PM  
Blogger joncormier said...

Do they work in the Buch administration? Sorry for bringing up politics but this reasoning sort of sounds familiar. We know what happened so we're doing something completely unconnected.

If All-Star Batman is where it's at then I'm leaving town. Sorry, i don't hate it but I don't like it either.

That being said I've enjoyed the first issue of Crisis. I do actually think they can clean up a lot of their messes. Whether or not they actually do will have to be "wait and see."

I've never been afraid of the dark by the way.

10/12/2005 02:37:00 PM  
Blogger joncormier said...

Well apparently I can't spell. I meant Bush.

Ah, well. Open mouth, type in foot.

10/12/2005 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Dan Coyle said...

Does anyone else see a massive, MASSIVE disconnect between Waid's words and actions?

That said, Infinite Crisis is pretty good. For all the beating he takes from people like ADD and Chris Butcher, Johns is one of the better writers of DC's current crowd. He's able to sell the setup despite the badly written comics that provide the foundation.

Then again, I'm sure he'll get bogged down in "fixing" things...

10/12/2005 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Adrian said...

My reaction to Identity Crisis: The writing wasn't bad at all, although Geoff Johns is taking this whole thing way, way too seriously. My biggest complaint about this is that Andy Lanning is a completely mismatched inker for Phil Jiminez. He makes Jiminez's art too dark and crosshatch-y. The last page should have been heroic and inspiring and beautiful, but it just looked ugly.

10/12/2005 04:31:00 PM  
Blogger kelvingreen said...

How long is Incontinent Crisis?

Obviously, I'm "scared" to know the actual answer, because it might be too "compelling", but I'd still like to know. Is it twelve issues this time around?

10/12/2005 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger Jeff R. said...

Seven issues. Or Eleven. Or Sixty-Three. Depending on how you count it.

(Seven of the main. Four specials based on the lead-in miniseries. And it all leads into '52'.)

10/12/2005 06:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is a "company risk", as Dido tells it, I hope it fails. And I do have an idea of what we're supposed to be scared of, or at least what I'm scared of: Greg Rucka's continued employment in comics. That does scare me.

10/12/2005 09:23:00 PM  
Blogger Michael said...

If I can talk a little bit about death, I found the ones in this issue to be rather pitiful. Geoff Johns has gone on about how killing characters you care about (as opposed to characters you don't) is good for drama, but it doesn't really work so well when the *audience* doesn't care very much about the characters. And I'm guessing that 75% of the audience doesn't give too much of a damn about Black Condor, Human Bomb, and Phantom Lady.

And fucking Ratcatcher? Dude, that's just sad. Kill Ratcatcher, you won't even get any tears.

10/12/2005 11:27:00 PM  
Blogger Bill Reed said...

Wait, whooooaaa ho ho there. Ratcatcher? The C-List Bat-villain? They offed him?

Dammit. I *liked* him! He had an awesomely lame gimmick.

10/13/2005 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Brad said...

I like that people keep spelling Didio as Dido. It makes me think of the singer saying these things, which amuses me for some odd reason.

10/13/2005 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Iron Lungfish said...

Ratcatcher? The C-List Bat-villain? They offed him?

In OMAC #6 they killed off Firefly, who was one of my favorite third-tier Bat-villains. Now, from everything I remember, Firefly had no powers - he was just some dude with a costume and a flamethrower. That hardly makes him a "metahuman." Ditto with Ratcatcher, I believe. So what's the deal here? Did the OMACs have a screw loose, gunning down ordinary humans, or did they just get bored? Or is the real agenda behind the OMAC Project nothing more than the secret Checkmate plot to wipe out Z-list characters to make Greg Rucka look gritty?

I like how Identity Crisis appears to be scolding its readers for buying comics with asshole superheroes while at the same time revelling in the phenomenon of asshole superheroes. And by "like" I mean "Geoff Johns is full of shit."

10/13/2005 01:13:00 AM  
Blogger T. said...

" I like how Identity Crisis appears to be scolding its readers for buying comics with asshole superheroes while at the same time revelling in the phenomenon of asshole superheroes. And by "like" I mean "Geoff Johns is full of shit." "

I agree. It's downright schizophrenic.

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10/13/2005 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Iron Lungfish said...

I'm dying to hear Marionette's reaction to DC's making "battlesuit Luthor" the "real" Luthor now.

10/13/2005 09:48:00 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

I'm scared of wasting my money on crappy snuff comics. That's why I'm not reading any mainline DCU books any more. Does that count?

10/13/2005 02:04:00 PM  
Blogger Marionette said...

I'm dying to hear Marionette's reaction to DC's making "battlesuit Luthor" the "real" Luthor now.

Well it's not like the Battlesuit Luthor in VU#6 bears much resemblence to Battlesuit Luthor in Loebworld. VU Luthor doesn't live in his battlesuit, is not a complete moron, and doesn't so much as have a wallet photo of Supergirl to drool over.

And how bad is the writing in both comics that the only way you can tell it's supposed to be the same person is because they put on a big colourful costume? Aren't we supposed to be a little more sophisticated than that these days?

Or maybe it's a fakeout and Loebworld Battlesuit creepy stalker Luthor is actually a third (or fourth if you include Alex) Luthor...

Crisis of Infinite Luthors, anyone?

10/14/2005 05:38:00 AM  
Blogger T. said...

In fairness to Loeb, no one in his stories acts intelligent or rational, so by comparison his Luthor is one of the smartest people in his stories.

10/14/2005 02:24:00 PM  

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